What does happen to all those aborted or ‘sacrificed to gods’ babies?

I personally don’t think they go to hell – that’s just silly that they should suffer for a life they never even lived.

But on the other hand, if they are saved and are granted eternal life in the end, what is the point of all of us living lives in sin and ‘becoming’ saved when babies that never lived through sin end up with the same result?

Ie: what would be the point of this life, this creation, when dead babies/fetuses gain the same result as 100 years of suffering and learning?

I hope that makes sense – i’m off to read some more of your articles now:)

“Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” (2 Cor 3:17)

For example, the native Americans appeared to be doing quite well until the Europeans came and butchered them for God and country. In fact, I would submit that there was more of a true and genuine godly Spirit residing among the American Indians (who knew NOT the name of Jesus) than there ever was among their European oppressors. Peter wrote of the type of “liberty” these folks had to offer:

“While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.” (2 Pet 2:19)

(1) Since eternal torment is a fable, these passages in Luke can only be describing varying degrees of corrective discipline for:

a) Believers: those who know the Lord’s will but do not according to His will (v.47).
b) Unbelievers: those who know not (v.48).

Believers who do not according to God’s will are in reality idolaters, mentioned here in Matt 7:

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Now the Greek word rendered as doeth here in the KJV is poieo (G4160), which basically means to perform, agree, or abide. Now most believers know that it is God’s will to save all men (Calvinism may be the lone exception), but FEW agree that God’s will concerning His desire to save all men shall be done. Therefore..

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Are there any other scriptures to indicate that false believers will be judged more severely than unbelievers?

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.” (Matt 23:14; NKJV)

How about Revelation 18 (NLT):

4 Then I heard another voice calling from heaven,

“Come away from her, my people.
Do not take part in her sins,
or you will be punished with her.
5 For her sins are piled as high as heaven,
and God remembers her evil deeds.
6 Do to her as she has done to others.
Double her penalty for all her evil deeds.
She brewed a cup of terror for others,

(eternal torment?)

so brew twice as much for her.
7 She glorified herself and lived in luxury,
so match it now with torment and sorrow.
She boasted in her heart,
‘I am queen on my throne.
I am no helpless widow,
and I have no reason to mourn.’
8 Therefore, these plagues will overtake her in a single day—
death and mourning and famine.
She will be completely consumed by fire,
for the Lord God who judges her is mighty.”

(2) I believe “leaves” is a symbol for “saints” who sprout forth from the Tree of Life: Christ (He is the Vine and the saints are His branches: John 15:15). I also believe that since they will by definition be PRIESTS of God and Christ (Rev 20:6), it will be their function to provide healing for the nations during the millennium. What all this entails I really don’t know. What I DO know is that the whole creation eagerly awaits their arrival (Rom 8:19).

See the comment thread here for further clarification:
http://hell-fact-or-fable.com/2010/04/genesis-reloaded/

Peace

Luk 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
Luk 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Also what are the leaves for the healing of the nations about in the end of Revelation? If the unrepentant sinners the church warns about are all in eternal torment in hell, what nations are we talking about? I am not a scholar, but I can not make the eternal torment argument fly from multiple angles. I read the whole bible trying to prove my dad wrong when he approached me with the thought that all may be saved. It was a humbling experience and my eyes were opened. I am so grateful.